|The biggest celebrity shocker to happen. Subway's Jared Fogle admits to harboring child porn and traveling across state lines to have sex with underage children. He will head to federal time out.|
The former Subway spokesman is heading off to federal time out. Before he heads off, his former friend Dr. Phil McGraw, the famed television psychologist, talks to the woman who brought him down.
Dr. Phil was granted access to the recordings that brought Fogle down.
Boy these recordings were disturbing. In a two part series, Dr. Phil talks to Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a former radio host who interviewed him and became suspicious when she overhead him say he found middle school girls attractive.
Rochelle would become an informant for the FBI. She wanted to gain Fogle's trust so he would tell his greatest fantasy. He wanted a threesome with her, a teenage girl and him.
Fogle would often brag about having feelings for boys and girls in some of these recordings.
|Michael Phelps with disgraced pitchman Jared Fogle.|
"I felt like I was so dirty," she told Dr. Phil. "My soul was dirty."
Fogle even details the process of how he approaches the young victims.
"We just start sharing stories, and then, you know, we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer, and before you know it...it just starts to happen," Fogle told Rochelle, saying it was not hard "at all."
"He talks about how to groom a family, he talks about how to groom the victim, he talks about all the things he does, the tricks of his trade," Dr. Phil said. "He just basically gives you the playbook of an evil monster."
Fogle became a household name as a pitchman for Subway, and used his fame to establish a foundation promoting healthy lifestyles among children.
In August, Fogle pleaded guilty to one count of distributing and receiving child pornography and one count of crossing state lines to engage in illicit sex with minors. He will be sentenced in November.
|Dr. Phil talks to the FBI informant about Jared Fogle.|
After amassing five years-worth of recordings, Rochelle finally reached her breaking point when Fogle mentioned her two young children.
"What if we, what if we put a camera in your kids' room, would they be okay with that?," he asks her in the recording. "Would you rather have it in your son or your daughter's room? Which one do you think would be better?"
Dr. Phil said Rochelle had to distance herself from her kids and family for hours afterwards.
"And it took a lot of time from her family and changed who she was. That was a very painful thing for her," said Dr. Phil.
"Dr. Phil" -- which is distributed by CBS television -- is devoting two episodes to the audio recordings - one airing Thursday and another airing Friday.
Fogle is facing five to 12 and a half years in prison and up to a $500,000 fine. His attorney declined to comment.